Random side note: I'm going home today!!!

Okay, I occasionally feel like I need to protect one of teh SPN boys.  Usually, it's Dean.  Today it's not.
Yes, I'm now going to protect the wrong brother, the one who's lost all brain power, who's dealing with demons and lying to his brother, the one who was very unlike himself at one point in last night's episode.  Yep, I think Afterschool Special really did remind me of what it was like to be a Sam!girl, and it seems I'm not ready to let go of that yet.

So, Sammy.  He thinks he's doing the right thing.  He's trying to save the world, to keep himself from going darkside, and to help Dean out a little bit.  He can't be thoroughly dependent on his big brother anymore.  He's learned how to survive in the family business without Dean, and he still hasn't quite figured out how to be the needy, season 1 Sammy again, because he never can be.  Both boys were drastically changed over the summer break -- those four months/forty years broke them, and now that is making them stronger.  Sam can't always be the damsel in distress; he has to be able to go on without Dean.
He's trying to stop the Apocalypse, save the world, the whole nine yards.  He's probably making it worse, but he has every good intention in doing what he's doing.
Dean doesn't need to deal with the demon shit right now.  I'll bet Dean would much prefer to never see a demon again, so working with one is out of the question.  Sam thinks Ruby is the key to saving the world; he thinks she is helping him stop himself from crossing to the wrong side (while the fans think she's sending him there, as does Dean).  Sammy really does trust her, and NOT because they had sex.
We dealt with Dean having sex with the whiney teenangel (never again) because he needed some comfort.  Why can't Sammy be the same way?  And, for once, the chick he hooked up with in this episode wasn't evil.
Sam had every right to say the things he did.  I mean, they were cruel and hurtful, yes.  I felt terribly for Dean when Sam said them.  And then I felt terribly for Sam when Dean said his things.  They were drugged by a frakkin' siren, obviously they were gonna spill their guts.  Radical honesty.

Anyway, I feel like everyone is cutting Dean an awful lot of slack this season because he went to Hell.  But Sam was basically in Hell, too.  Hell on Earth, not quite the same thing, but he lost everything.  Let's give him the benefit of the doubt, too.



Credit: Sarah McLachlan's "I Will Remember You," www.supernatural.tv/gallery2/gallery.htm, and me.


Credit: The Fray's "Over My Head," www.supernatural.tv/gallery2/gallery.htm, and me.

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From: [identity profile] misstitania.livejournal.com


I giggled at your "radical honesty" line. Hmm, wonder where that is from?

You do make some good points about what Sam has been through too. Plus I think Sam has a SERIOUS case of survior's guilt.

And again beautiful headers.

From: [identity profile] flower-envy.livejournal.com


Hahaha. Yeah, my head was half in SPN and half in Lie to Me this morning, for whatever reason. It doesn't help that everything we're talking about in Philosophy makes me think of the show and everything we're talking about in Astronomy makes me think of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. So maybe that's a good enough excuse. . . . *shrugs and giggles*

You're right, survivor's guilt is a HUGE factor in Sam's behavior of late.

Thanks!

From: [identity profile] xxhells-bitchxx.livejournal.com


very beautifully put. As usual, you prove to be the sane one who can look at things logically. Nice job, because I sure didn't. lol
I think you make some really really good points here-the only things I don't agree with is you're mention of Sam being in Hell on eart- not because I don't believe he was, but because while I think many dean!fans have to recognice how awful if was for him, too, hunter's have lost their everything before-Sam was dealing; he coped right? we can see this. But what Dean experienced no one has EVER experienced before-and h's not really coping as much. And how could we expect him to?-and then when you mention Sam having a right to say the thngs he did. Okay well, I do agree with that-but I did notice that Dean didn't say anything we didn't already know he felt, and well, Sam just kinda shocked me by shoving all of Dean's worst fears and beliefs about himself in his face.....
but I guess you could (kinda) agrue that Dean did the same (cept not really in my book, cuz you know me XD)

But I think you were spot on! Nice job! *hugs you*


From: [identity profile] flower-envy.livejournal.com


I don't have a lot of time, but I wanted to clarify that I am in NO WAY comparing Sam's summer to Dean's forty years in Hell. I'm simply stating that that summer made them both grow and change in different ways because of the nature of their experiences.
And I think I need to see the end of this episode again in order to better compare the boys hurtful statements. And I will be seeing it again tonight, because I'm going home and my family watches everything the next day.

From: [identity profile] xxhells-bitchxx.livejournal.com


Oh, no, of course not. Fogive me; I must've commented unclearly. I didn't think you were comparing; I'm merely aware that there are people who ARE comparing the two,side by side, and I think your description of Sam's time w/o Dean being hell on earth is a much closer and point-on persepective.
I'm watching it again tonight,too-wanna IM me when you are and we can make up for our date last night?

From: [identity profile] flower-envy.livejournal.com


I have no idea when I will be watching it, and I will be watching it with my family, so IM-ing through it probably isn't an option. However, if I re-watched it before you did, I could IM you through your re-watch. Haha. It would be a little awkward to *squee* online with my mother, father, and brother, which is why all of my "SPN-While-I-Watch" posts happen at school and my incoherent-after posts happen at home.

I still love your icon, btw.

From: [identity profile] dutchess-sandra.livejournal.com


I feel like everyone is cutting Dean an awful lot of slack this season because he went to Hell. But Sam was basically in Hell, too. Hell on Earth, not quite the same thing, but he lost everything. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt, too.

I agree, I'm far from ready to take sides yet. They are now both lead by very powerful emotions and although they appear to be up against each other I think every one has to keep in mind that they still both have the same goals; they want to stop Lilith from breaking the seals and they both want their brother back.

I'm really interested to see where this all goes, but I have faith that it will turn out okay.


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